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Dictateur Imperator
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Posted - 2015.04.01 17:20:32 -
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Why remove not aft lacking, but clocking immunity from the game.
A) "Afk cloacking" :
-Make moral harassment : just illegal in my country in real life, if i want i can go in justice against CCP if they don't kick a perma clocker who i can proof he make this to make moral harassment (read forum easy to have proof).
-No counter mesure
-Get pvp without tae any risk for pvp player, you can be aft or not attack when you want. You are risk free. ( and active pve player is NEVER risk free for exemple).
B) Normal cloacking:
-More strategical battle if your bomber wing must move and don't just wait 2 H in a point for an enemy fleet coming. More dynamic battle you know ?
C) More content:
- Kill clocker who don't move provide content. Don't play in a system because one people can't be kill and can kill you is just... destroying content.
D)Local issue:
- Local or not : You can't be decloack so people can know you ar here and can't kill you. You are just free risk. Let's do end this remove perma clocking, let people kill you. Risk VS reward : You want good kill mail ? Ok take more risk , for the moment you are risk free.
- AFK cloacking is counter mesure to perfect intel/risk free for pve/other argument like this : In 0.0 the people who attack have all advantage ; you have free intel by a lot of website about mining in system, farming in system so you know where it's active before go in this system. You have free intel about number of target when you enter on the system by local (so local is not only help for people who far, but for rammer to). In fact the true counter of perfect intel of the local is ... you have intel without be in the system you to with farming/mining information.
Conclusion: Nerf cloacking will create more content in the game. Remove perma clocking, and you create more strategical battle, more interesting things,ect... |
Dictateur Imperator
Babylon Knights
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Posted - 2015.04.01 18:12:38 -
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Just for information: Local remove rumor come from fuzzy interview , in the same interview he saids "no new structure, and never nerf cloaking".
So maybe local will stay.
To b continue about nerf of colloquy ship : No counter to cloac actually, after you have a counter. Just a normal change in a game. |
Dictateur Imperator
Babylon Knights
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Posted - 2015.04.01 18:21:29 -
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Nina Lowel wrote:Dictateur Imperator wrote:Just for information: Local remove rumor come from fuzzy interview , in the same interview he saids "no new structure, and never nerf cloaking".
So maybe local will stay.
To be continue about nerf of colloquy ship : No counter to cloac actually, after you have a counter. Just a normal change in a game. He said cloaking will never be nerfed, not AFK'ing.
He said no new structure to. In fact : all this interveiw is Fozie point of view, not CCP point of view. So maybe local never be removed in null (or maybe we have local with observatory).
In all case people can trap ship without aft clocking. They just must use brain. |
Dictateur Imperator
Babylon Knights
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Posted - 2015.04.03 15:01:54 -
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Why continue to speak about nerf or not cloacky ?
Actually perma cloak permit moral harassement , and it's just illegal in a lot of country. It's time to CCP to change this and offer one counter. Law argument best argument.
If you are unahpy by the end of perma cloaking: how can you said you are pvp player ? it's offer to you a lot of new game play to bait/hunt people.
And as "pvp" player like to said to carebear : Adapt or die. |
Dictateur Imperator
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:17:17 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Dictateur Imperator wrote:Why continue to speak about nerf or not cloacky ?
Actually perma cloak permit moral harassement , and it's just illegal in a lot of country. It's time to CCP to change this and offer one counter. Law argument best argument.
If you are unahpy by the end of perma cloaking: how can you said you are pvp player ? it's offer to you a lot of new game play to bait/hunt people.
And as "pvp" player like to said to carebear : Adapt or die. Basically, go out and start cloaking then going afk
You haven't understand my post, or you troll. I think you troll , so pleas follow rules of this forum.
Afk cloacking permit moral harassement, it's illegal, read my post dude. The discussion is not " why nerf cloack", but "cloak must be nerved, so what we doing to nerf it ?" |
Dictateur Imperator
Babylon Knights
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:05:18 -
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Cloacking is actually use for moral harassement who is illegal in my country. So CCP want to offer a way to counter this it's a good thing : CCP game avoid to have some juridical problem and more over gameplay become best by more content in 0.0. (Yes nerf perma clocking means more pve/miner in 0.0 who have they 're own content and means more target for pvp player.)
Eve become more interesting for all people with this. |
Dictateur Imperator
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:58:55 -
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Isd Ezwal i don't troll:
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F32247.xhtml
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F32239.xhtml
Actually perma cloaking is illegal in my country for the harassment who people do with it. I let you translate in english the two official link .
So my argument for bye bye cloaking : Law of my country nothing else.
And more :
If perma cloack is nerf: More activity in 0.0 because more ratter/miner, so more content for they.... and more content for pvp people beacause more target. |
Dictateur Imperator
Babylon Knights
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:04:42 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Don't be silly afk cloaking while doing nothing obviously helps catch the targets
I can proof moral harassement of a lot of perma cloacker and CCP can't said it's "game mechanic fact" if the game mechanic are not "good" for all player. (Means each game play have a true counter).
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Dictateur Imperator
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Posted - 2015.04.04 18:17:23 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post. The Rules:12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category. In other words, do not repost a removed post! Edit: Please refrain from reposting removed posts or there might be consequences.
French law it's not a troll, i respect all rules of the forum. I don't discuss about your moderation. I just post French article of law agree with EULA of EVE/forum.
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F32247.xhtml
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F32239.xhtml
So This two french link are about Harassement. If you read french define of Harassement (and online in video game to) you can see perma cloacker do a lot of time harassement. So introduce a counter is a legal obligation.
If you want remove edit this post: Mp me in forum and explain WHY.
P.S: i make this post to have a reference for the support, i send to support to have an employee of CCP point of view. Forum have a legal value in my country in case of i go in justice. I think You understand. Thank. |
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